A couple of you have been asking after the Wombmate. After her first IVF she has had to wait for a follow up appointment - which won't happen until the start of July. So at the moment she is in that particular purgatory that the NHS specialises in.
Here's a little post from her nevertheless:
How am I? The answer is not so good. In much the same way as Liz, I function well at work during the week but spend most weekends in a puddle of tears.
[Ed. Family gatherings are, as you can imagine, a barrel of laughs nowadays.]
Not being a natural blogger I look instead to my area of work to see if that can help. I'm a psychologist and although I don't directly work in the area of grief/bereavement counselling I know a few who do. One of them recently gave me a short paper on grief which I thought might be worth a post if any of you out there are feeling like WFI and me.
Psychologists like to create models of how people react to things: to my mind these are only really useful if they help us to understand ourselves and others and maybe suggest ways of coping. There are lots of models of grief. The older ones suggest that grief is a process of different stages where people feel, at different points: disbelief, sadness, guilt, anger etc. Although appealing these models don't really seem supported by experience, but they are useful in helping us understand that, at different times we can experience very different emotions, and that is completely normal. In fact, one of the psychologists I work with says she has seen so many different grief reactions over the years that her perception of what a normal reaction is encompasses just about anything.
A newer model of grief suggests that grief is a 'dual process', where part of the time grief is avoided and part of the time it is acknowledged. This model says that there are times when avoiding grief is helpful as well as times when it is detrimental to well-being. Like anything in life the trick is getting the balance.
So, if you have thrown yourself into work and are not allowing yourself time to process what you have been through, you may need take some time thinking about your experience to help you assimilate it. If your reaction has been to sit in a darkened room with several boxes of tissues and opt out of life then you need to give yourself a break from the grief and focus on some of the mundane things in life. Both are of course easier said than done and won't miraculously make you happy in the short-term. But at some point it will become easier - you're human and ultimately as such you have a fantastic ability to come to terms with the hand life has dealt you even if it doesn't feel possible now.
So what about you? Does this ring any bells or does it just sound like psychobabble?
For my part I have to say I feel much better. Thanks to being throughly rallied-round with emails, texts and invites to meet up with friends. And the amount of times the "Womb 'I hate phones more than anyone in living history' -Mate" has been calling me I am starting to think I'm on suicide watch.
Here's a little post from her nevertheless:
How am I? The answer is not so good. In much the same way as Liz, I function well at work during the week but spend most weekends in a puddle of tears.
[Ed. Family gatherings are, as you can imagine, a barrel of laughs nowadays.]
Not being a natural blogger I look instead to my area of work to see if that can help. I'm a psychologist and although I don't directly work in the area of grief/bereavement counselling I know a few who do. One of them recently gave me a short paper on grief which I thought might be worth a post if any of you out there are feeling like WFI and me.
Psychologists like to create models of how people react to things: to my mind these are only really useful if they help us to understand ourselves and others and maybe suggest ways of coping. There are lots of models of grief. The older ones suggest that grief is a process of different stages where people feel, at different points: disbelief, sadness, guilt, anger etc. Although appealing these models don't really seem supported by experience, but they are useful in helping us understand that, at different times we can experience very different emotions, and that is completely normal. In fact, one of the psychologists I work with says she has seen so many different grief reactions over the years that her perception of what a normal reaction is encompasses just about anything.
A newer model of grief suggests that grief is a 'dual process', where part of the time grief is avoided and part of the time it is acknowledged. This model says that there are times when avoiding grief is helpful as well as times when it is detrimental to well-being. Like anything in life the trick is getting the balance.
So, if you have thrown yourself into work and are not allowing yourself time to process what you have been through, you may need take some time thinking about your experience to help you assimilate it. If your reaction has been to sit in a darkened room with several boxes of tissues and opt out of life then you need to give yourself a break from the grief and focus on some of the mundane things in life. Both are of course easier said than done and won't miraculously make you happy in the short-term. But at some point it will become easier - you're human and ultimately as such you have a fantastic ability to come to terms with the hand life has dealt you even if it doesn't feel possible now.
So what about you? Does this ring any bells or does it just sound like psychobabble?
For my part I have to say I feel much better. Thanks to being throughly rallied-round with emails, texts and invites to meet up with friends. And the amount of times the "Womb 'I hate phones more than anyone in living history' -Mate" has been calling me I am starting to think I'm on suicide watch.

I guess I just want to send lots of hugs to both of you. It sucks and I'm sorry.
ReplyDeleteIt rings a bell on both fronts-the Kubler Ross model definitely fits well; although I think there needs to be a category added for emptiness-the week or so after that failed IVF I just don't remember thinking, or feeling. It wasn't despondency, just um, more like a void after feeling too much of everything.
ReplyDeleteAs for the dual process, I can relate, because I still feel like I have this undercurrent of fear and anxiety, overwhelming if I stop long enough and get in touch with it. Most of the time it's masked by focusing on work, on my clients, on my friends problems, on the Real Housewives of whatever city is currently on...but it keeps me functioning, and moving forward.
Sorry if I sound certifiable, but wanted to answer your question. I hope that you are doing well, and as always I'm wishing the best for you.
I saw a grief counsellor yesterday and she spoke about the dual process. It was actually a really good process to talk about what an impact this was having on me and it felt good to talk about me without having to censor anything for fear of what people may think. All up I have two words for infertility. You suck. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteThis was a wonderful post. Your sister sounds amazing. I don't feel like I have the right words to say to you at all, and I don't want my words to be just trite words of comfort.
ReplyDeleteI'm really feeling for you. You've been through so much and you have a lot harder road than any of us could imagine. You have every right and every place to be angry, hurt, and generally out of sorts. I just want you to know that I'm thinking of you and hurting for you. Take good care of yourself...
Brilliant post.
ReplyDeleteI really relate to the grief stuff (different issue than infertility though).
Can you please direct me to more info on the stuff about duality?
You see, I find it hard to explain to people that although we do function and laugh and have fun, we NEED to spend a bit of time feeling the grief as well so that we can continue to function .... and people don't get that ... they want to make us happy ALL the time and it just isn't possible.
Well, Wombmate, it sounds a little bit like you're intellectualizing your emotions. And spending lots of time supporting your sister. But if you're in NHS purgatory, I can see how these would be effective distraction techniques. I hope the July appointment has something useful to offer.
ReplyDeleteI identify with the dual process idea - there are moments when you're sad as can be and then there are moments when you're laughing because there's nothing else you can do.
Dual process, indeed. I feel better myself knowing that I've got any balance to weather this madness. It was the roughest patch and weeding seemed like a reasonable thing. Mundane? Check.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts are with you and the womb mate for the steps that fall next. I am also wishing for more good days than bad ones as you work through the grief here.
I never seem to be able to find anything useful to say but I thank you both from the bottom of my heart for being such good, true friends to me. I'm so proud to know you and call you my friends and i wish you weren't going through this. lots of love Wig xxxx
ReplyDeleteThe dual model rings a bell with me, for sure. The big realisation of this stage of my life is that sadness coexists with happiness. I didn't get that before, I thought you were basically one or the other.
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear you are feeling more like yourself. xx
I always liked Virginia Ironside's book 'You'll Get Over It'. She basically says, whatever you're feeling, is normal. Which was a relief to me, because various garbled versions of the Kubler-Ross model via well-meaning friends, bloggers, and family all only served to make me feel that I was peculiar.
ReplyDeleteSometimes, I have a very nice day, DESPITE the fact something triggered a wave of sadness. I like that, when the sadness fits in without ruining everything, but without being denied or squelched either.
I am wishing you both all the best. I don't cross fingers for people anymore, it just seems to jinx them. Sorry about that *sigh*.
The dual process makes much more sense to me. It's not the tight evolution of those "stages of grief" which always seemed overly black and white to me. And only matched my grief in very inconsistent fashion.
ReplyDeleteJust very sorry that both you and Liz find yourselves in situations where you even need to contemplate it.
I'm so sorry for both of you. I'm so glad you have each other to lean on. I'm hoping soon you'll both be celebrating together!
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